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Bloodlines Stories 4

Plumber's Ch Alligator

 

 

 

 

 

 

by “Bull Plug”

I am constantly being asked questions about the Alligator dog and the family of dogs that has come about from this great old warrior.

It seems the more that’s said the more is left unsaid or at least overlooked and not purposely so.

Alligator came about as almost an after thought. Mr. Williams of Ft. Worth had obtained the Satin Lady bitch from Maurice Carver. She was a big, black pretty bitch that I never cared much about as an individual. She was one of these scatter-bred dogs Maurice was famous for. Unlike most of the Carver dogs she was cold. When it came time to breed her Mr. Williams went to Wichita Falls, Texas and bred her to Tudor’s old Nigger dog, which was owned at that time by J.E. King. Nigger was some of the last of the old Tudor stuff and had been on several yards before King got him.

The breeding was made, and as they grew into adulthood I was able to see and handle all three of these dogs. Alligator, as great as he was, had two littermates that in my opinion were at least as good if not better than him. There were Soko and Susan Renee’, both real bulldogs in every way.

Mr. Williams kept Alligator until he was just over a year old, so he could breed him back to his dam, which he did. Soko had shown so good at a young age for the little Plumber that the Plumbers went in together to buy Alligator.

When they bought him, I was certain they had an albatross, because he was so big. I figured they would never be able to get him hooked up. I also figured his chances of being as good as Soko were little to none at all. You have got to figure this was during an era of really great dogs, and who would ever expect this big, ugly dog to be anything special.

The Plumber’s started out with such a good bunch of dogs that they expected everything to be really fast lane. They had roll dogs better than most people’s match dogs, and were always looking for action and better dogs.

They felt they never had the luxury of a methodical schooling process. They were great dog men, but were hard on the dogs. They felt their dogs were either ace or near ace, or they were out of here with little regard for mediocrity.

Gator was started out on good dogs that were smaller than he was and most were just dominated by this optical illusion.

There were also several Brush Matches where Alligator would just run over the competition. The Plumbers were concerned because they had never seen him get his oil checked, even though he had been double dogged on several occasions.

They had got a Tudor dog from me named Zeke that was a plug, but very game. A fellow showed up on that place, and in the course of conversation said the old black dog did not impress him that much and he would bet ole Zeke could whip him. The Plumbers, being ever ready to show what sports they were, agreed on the bet and down they went. The fellow who underestimated Alligator was soon separated from his money when he told them to pick up Zeke, who was no match for the Alligator dog. As the stranger left, he made a statement that always holds true in the Bulldog world. "You sure can’t tell one by how they look".

In their quest for perfection, they made a request to use Trussell’s Dum Dum dog to see if Alligator was truly game. Dummy you see was a game dog that was even bigger than Alligator. It seems that in that day and time any dog from a cross, scatter bred or real rough were suspect of being a cur, so they did everything they could to stop Alligator. When they got to Trussell’s they ran Alligator on the tread mill for one half hour then fifteen minutes road work to cool him down, then to the roll pit, where he went over half an hour with the larger Dum Dum dog. It was nip and tuck and Alligator went across when he shouldn’t have on wobbly legs. This roll turned out to be a pretty good game test for Dum Dum too. When asked how it turned out, Trussell said, "The black dog gave Dummy everything he wanted."

The next match for "Alligator" was in the Big League at one of Maurice’s big ten match shows. He went in as a definite underdog, going into Bryant, males fifty eight pounds. Both dogs appeared to be in excellent shape and came to fight with a fast hard pace set for big dogs. Alligator goes to the legs with Bryant’s dog Satin swapping it out and going from legs to nose, and then getting into Gator’s stifle, where they swap it out. A turn is called on Satin at twenty-six minutes. A handle made at thirty minutes and Satin makes a good scratch. A handle is made and Alligator makes the scratch at forty minutes, taking Satin down to work the front legs. Satin takes the count at forty-five, making Gator the winner. There was much speculation among the huge crowd present if any one had a big one for this hound dog looking goof.

His next match was into a dog called Jack at catch weight. Alligator came in sixty pounds heavier. These heavy weights hit and the fight was on. Jack, a big staff looking dog takes Gator down and works him over for twenty minutes with Gator being content to take the bottom where he is always in hold. Gator is coming to the top and by thirty minutes it’s an even fight. Jack was a seasoned dog who had never met his equal and you can see Alligator has begun to come to the top as Jack begins to fatigue and get that far away look in his eyes. During the earlier part of the match, Bobby Ackel had commented on Gator may have met his match and Jimmy Jobe turned and said to me, as Gator was being trashed like a stepchild, "that if Jack was game and keeps this up, ole Gator could be in trouble". As the match was winding down Bobby Ackel said, "Ole Jack looks like he has bout had it", and sure enough in just the hour mark he takes the count. I went over to check on the Jack dog and offer any assistance I could and I noticed his stomach and chest. I could see what had made the difference in this match and it was the punishment Gator had dished out from the bottom and it was unbelievable. I heard later that Jack lived out his life in luxury after Gator ended his ring career.

There was some time after this match, as no one wanted any of the Gator Dog, so during a roll session at the Plumbers’ place; the Caddell’s showed up with several to school. These boys had some old time stuff the old man had been breeding for years and some were sure solid, from the Lightner-Colby stuff. They had a male named Jeff that was a big spotted dog, too big for everything on the place except Alligator. So he was taken off the chain to oblige the Jeff dog. This dog was the closest thing to Gator’s equal that I saw during his career. The roll ended early due to a bleeder being hit on Gator. Jeff went to the Midwest where he did very well and where I heard he made Champion.

When the Plumbers had about given up on another official match, word came from Oklahoma that a man named Brown had one he would run at the Alligator dog. Up to then, several had fallen through, but this one came off and as they say in the dogs these boys "brought a paddle for the Plumber’s ass." They had done their homework and rather than a punisher, they brought one that not only could punish but was versatile and smart. This dog could have whipped Gator and on another day might have. The dogs were conditioned by two of the best conditioners of the day. Gator conditioned by Burton and Joker conditioned by Fox. The match was males at fifty-seven pounds and Oklahoma Shorty was the referee. The dogs hit and Gator takes the bottom but is coming up from time to time and being frustrated by Joker’s style, that had never been too effective on him with the defensive dogs he had met earlier in his life. A turn was called on Joker at twenty-five minutes, but a handle was not made until fifty-two minutes and Joker scratches strong. Alligator has started to dominate the match by the hour mark. At an hour nine, Gator is screaming from his corner to scratch and is showing what he is said to be famous for, "Killer Instinct" and you can plainly see he plans to finish the job if allowed to do so. At an hour twelve, Joker takes the count. We all agree, we have just witnessed two of the best big dogs to ever come down the pike and what a show they put on. The Plumbers are quick to commend Mr. Brown and Mr. Fox on bringing an excellent dog in top condition. They also say they plan on retiring the old warrior, no that he is officially a Champion.

As I look back, I can only recall a few heavyweights that were ever in Alligator’s league. Hooten’s Butcher Boy, Sampson (Alligator’s half brother) were two very good dogs that ended each other’s careers. There was also a dog out of Tennessee that sure impressed me, but in my mind Alligator will always be the best.

Besides a great combat dog, Alligator was a pleasure to be around and always a clown. He was never bred to an army of bitches, but produced what I consider his share of really good dogs. This story goes further than Alligator himself and must include his littermates and both his and their offspring. They represent not just a few good dogs, but a great family of dogs that have stood the test of time, not just in this country but on five continents. You must remember these dogs were never mass-produced, but still have made a tremendous impact on the dogs of today. I have never been overly sentimental about my dogs, but have had a few of these dogs that were special to me.

Of all the things said about the Alligator family I think the most impressive trait I’ve seen is how well it crosses with most any other good family of dogs. I sincerely believe it is a genetic pool that cannot hurt any breeding program, and in most cases adds that something special that comes along from time to time, that makes them special and that is what we are all looking for, right?

  A killer in his day CH Alligator is considered the best big pit dog who ever crossed the scratch line and the sire of the great Hammonds' Rufus ROM.,CH ALLEN'S MAG, CH PLUMBER'S EBONY, GR CH SOFIAKIS' TANK (6XW) And many other winners
 
4 Generations  Pedigree for CH Alligator
First Second Third Fourth
(Sire) TUDOR'S NIGGER ROM CH TUDOR'S JEFF CH TUDOR'S DIBO (3XW) ROM HUBBARD'S BOUNCE ROM
HEINZL'S BAMBI ROM
GORDON'S RED LADY CH. TUDOR'S JOHN
DE CORDOVA'S ZULA
CH. TUDOR'S BABY CH TUDOR'S SPIKE (4XW) ROM CH TUDOR'S DIBO (3XW) ROM
GORDON'S RED LADY
CARVER'S BLACK WIDOW ROM CANNON'S BLACK SHINE (2XW)
HANSON'S AMBER GIRL
(Dam) WILLIAMS' SATIN LADY CH CARVER'S IRONHEAD ROM CARVER'S BLONDIE BOUDREAUX' BLIND BILLY (1XW)(1XL)
CARVER'S BLONDY
CARVER'S BLACK GIRL CH TUDOR'S DIBO (3XW) ROM
CARVER'S BLACK WIDOW ROM
CARVER'S BLACK BEAUTEE CH E. CRENSHAW'S RENO E. CRENSHAW'S SAD SACK (KINARD'S)
E. CRENSHAW'S POLLY
CARVER'S MISS SPIKE (2XW) ROM CH TUDOR'S SPIKE (4XW) ROM
WOMACK'S MERT

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Mountain Man's Bandit  as appeared in AGDT October 1991

The week after this issue came out , I received a letter and printed it in the January 1992 issue, turning it into an article called, More on Smith's Bandit.

 
 
4 GENERATION PEDIGREE
MOUNTAIN MAN'S BANDIT (2XW)(1XL) POR
 
REGISTRATION #:    45700C-32
SEX:    MALE
COLOR:   BLACK / WHITE CHEST
 WEIGHT:   37
BIRTHDATE:   1983-05-04
LAST MODIFIED:   
~ Sire of CH Gunther, CH Barbarian, CH Reggie, Two Eyes ROM (2XW), the ace Rapid Roy (1XW), and Wildside's Renegade.
Generations in Pedigree
First Second Third Fourth
(Sire) GR CH HARGROVE'S OUTLAW (7XW) CH FINLEY'S BO ROM LOPOSAY'S DUBS COLBY'S (AKA LOPOSAY'S) RUSTY
COLBY'S CHITA
LOPOSAY'S DOT LOPOSAY'S BULLET
LOPOSAY'S (AKA BURKETTE'S) TIGER LILLY
CH CRENSHAW'S POLLY CH CRENSHAW'S RASCAL 8XW 1XL ROM CARVER'S BLACK SHINE
CARVER'S ORPHAN ANNIE II (2XW)
CH CRENSHAW'S HONEYBUNCH (3XW) ROM WALLING'S BULLYSON (2XW)(1XL) ROM
CARVER'S AMBER
(Dam) CH RC & THE SOSO BOYS' MOLLY CARVER & JOHNSON'S BRUTUS CARVER'S STOMPANATO ROM CARVER'S BLACK SHINE
CARVER'S BLACK BEAUTY
JOHNSON'S ROSIE JACKSON'S BOOGIE WOOGIE
J. THOMPSON'S STINKER
CARVER'S FRECKLES CARVER'S STOMPANATO ROM CARVER'S BLACK SHINE
CARVER'S BLACK BEAUTY
JOHNSON'S ROSIE JACKSON'S BOOGIE WOOGIE
J. THOMPSON'S STINKER

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bbb's grand champion spikey

above:   spikey's  championship from the 96 yearbook

above: spikey's  grand championship from the 97 yearbook

 Here is what I saw of Spikey in the mid 1990s.

BBB had gotten the dog from his breeder a guy named Marty Glasgow. Marty was a hobbyist breeder , but like many hobbyist they have historically made some important breedings. Marty is also accredited with being the breeder of Frisco To Valerie, the first time that breeding was made.

Spikey schooled out well and showed to be promising. They won one with him at this time in the NC area, where I also lived. I saw him go and he was winning for sure and I loved to go into winners. So I hooked Bungholio into him. Bungholio was a 1 time winner that had beat TVK & Milk Inc's Cobb ( Cobb was a full brother to Arangadanga and Wicked ) Bungholio was out of a brother to Champion Taz ROM named Kretler's Marvin bred to Cocoa who was a full belly sister to Gr Ch Bo. I was sick of hearing about Spikey and I was getting ready to shut him down. Wrong. If you look in the bottom of many Champion and Grand Champions from the late 1900's you will see my name were I was repeatedly mistaken. This was to be the case again.

Bungholio and Spikey meet one early day just as the sun turned the sky red for a moment. On release they were even. Neither dog getting out front for long, the light of day was upon them and the match went back and forth. About 45 minutes it turned for the worse for us as Bungholio made a bad move a turn was called and a handle was made. Bungholio was not doing well and by the hour mark he took the count. Spikey wins. Damn.

Spikey was now looking for his championship. During this period was a kennel called Baltimore Ron, Ron was known for going out and buying what he needed to win. He came with the best he could find and was no soft spot. He brought a dog named Casino, the match went 34 minutes. He is now Champion Spikey.

During this same time period The Untouchables are on a roll and BBB and the Untouchables are on path to a head on collision as Ratliff's Champion Bumphus and Ch Spikey are hooked. It was a good one with Bumphus losing in 1:04.

Does BBB stop there? Nope, one more time and make a run at the toughest 41/2 male in the country known at that time.

Hargroves had a dog named Lil red , that had just come back from Florida winning over a champion in style. He was said by many to be the next "one" . BBB had different plans for Lil Red as they hooked up and this was set to be big time excitement. Over the course of Spikey's 4 wins he had become quite the little ace dog and showed it by completely shutting Lil Red down in 28 minutes and becoming Grand Champion Spikey.
 

 
 
4 GENERATION PEDIGREE
GR CH BEACH BOY BILLY'S SPIKEY (5XW) POR
 
BREEDER:    HIGHLANDER KENNELS
OWNER:    BEACH BOY BILLY
SEX:    MALE
COLOR:   BUCKSKIN
WEIGHT:   38
BIRTHDATE:   1993-09-16
 
Generations in Pedigree
First Second Third Fourth
(Sire) GLASGOW'S SLICK 50 CRUM'S HEAD WOOD'S SNOOTY (2XW)(2XL) ROM HOOTEN'S' SNAKE
ART'S MISSY (2XW) ROM
BREWER'S COPY (2XW) JOHNSON'S ZEB (2XW)
BREWER'S HONEY BABE
CRUM'S CREAMATOR (2XW) PATRICK'S TOMBSTONE ROM (1X) CH MALONEY'S TOOT (4XW)
SPEEDY ALAN'S GINA
PATRICK'S RED BABY ROM INDIAN BOLIO (1XW) ROM
PATRICK'S GOLDY
(Dam) BBB'S FAT BABY POR (1XW) HOLLINGSWORTH'S PENCIL (2XW) HOLLINGSWORTH'S BULL POR CRUM'S CARIBOU
PATRICK'S LADY IN RED
HOLLINGSWORTH'S ANGEL BREWER'S PADDY
PATRICK'S LADY IN RED
 COAL CAT (1XW) CHAMPION V&B'S CHINAMAN (4XW) ROM WOOD'S TROUBLE
ABERNATHY'S MOLLY (ROM)
HOLLINGSWORTH'S RUBY (2XW) BREWER'S PADDY
PATRICK'S LADY IN RED

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ABLIZIN'S CHAMPION LUTHER

 
 
4 GENERATION PEDIGREE
CH ABLIZIN'S LUTHER ROM
 
BREEDER:    S.T.P.
OWNER:    D.ABLIZIN
SEX:    MALE
 

 

Generations in Pedigree
First Second Third Fourth
(Sire) CH S.T.P.'S BLACK PAZMANIAN (4XW) ROM CHEROKEE KENNELS' OILER JR. (2XW) ROM GR CH MURPHY'S & HEIKKLIA'S OILER (5XW) HARRIS' ELI III (1XW) ROM
HEIKKLIA'S HOOKER
BOYLES' BLACK GOLD POR CH THRIFT'S BOBBY JR (4XW) POR
BOYLES' DIRTY MARY (2XW) (ROM)
MANN'S LADY BUG CH BOYLES' BOLT ACTION (4XW-1XGL) ROM GR CH HOLLAND'S CHEROKEE CHIEF (6XW) ROM
BOYLES' DIRTY MARY (2XW) (ROM)
BURCH'S CINDY GR.CH. BURCH'S SMOKEY (6XW)
BOYLES' DIRTY MARY (2XW) (ROM)
(Dam) CH ZEBO'S GINA GIRL (3XW) POR GR CH S.T.P.'S BUCK (7XW) ROM PATRICK'S LITTLE TATER PATRICK'S BULL BOY BOB ROM (1X)
PATRICK'S RED BABY ROM
PATRICK'S RED LADY ROM PATRICK'S KENO
MALONEY'S DOLLY
C.A.K'S GINA BLUE EYES (1XLG) POR GR CH BURTON'S HANK (5XW) ROM KEPHART'S TIP
KEPHART'S SUSIE
GREENWOOD'S PEACHES (2XW) CH GIROUX' GUNNER (4XW) ROM
GREENWOOD'S LADY LEHI


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  VBK'S CHAMPION RED

AGDT VOLUME 12 ISSUE NUMBER 4 1998

 
 
4 GENERATION PEDIGREE
CH V.B.K.'S RED 4XW
 
BREEDER:    RANCHERITA KENNELS
OWNER:    VIERA BROTHERS KENNELS
REGISTRATION #:    33700E-41
SEX:    MALE
COLOR:   BLACK
CONDITIONED WEIGHT:   38 LBS
POSTED:   2001-04-09
LAST MODIFIED:   2005-03-09
No OF VIEWS:   3195 times
 

 

Generations in Pedigree
First Second Third Fourth
(Sire) RANCHERITA'S LITTLE GATOR (ROM) GR CH  SPIKE (5XW)  WOOD'S SNOOTY (2XW)(2XL) ROM HOOTEN'S' SNAKE
ART'S MISSY (2XW) ROM
MIDDLETON'S BLACK BETTY (POR) HOLT'S JEREMIAH (2XW)
HOLT'S SHERRY .
ABERNATHY'S  MISS MOLLY CH ABERNATHY'S BOY (3XW) WOOD'S TROUBLE
ABERNATHY'S MOLLY (ROM)
ABERNATHY'S MOLLY (ROM) WOOD'S SNOOTY (2XW)(2XL) ROM
HYDE'S BLOODY SUNDAY (2XW)(CARVER'S)
(Dam) RANCHERITA'S DOLLY VARDEN (ROM) CIPPONERI'S CHOPPERS WILLIE COLBY'S GALTIE II COLBY'S HUBIE
COLBY'S NELL
COLBY'S MAGGIE (DONAHUE'S MAGGIE) COLBY'S BUSTER
COLBY'S KATIE
CIPPONERI'S CHOPPERS RUBY INDIAN MISTER INDIAN BLACK SHINE
INDIAN PUGS
INDIAN TROUBLE INDIAN BABY SPIKE
CRUM'S CREAMATOR (2XW)

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Champion Rommel

 
 
4 GENERATION PEDIGREE
CH COMPETITION KENNEL'S ROMMELL (3XW) POR
 

 

ch. rommell is a tremendously game bulldog.he's blind as a bat.his record speaks for its self.he is a mix of the#1,2and 3 TRUE ROM males and #1 rom female. He is producing damn well,and his pedigree or SHOW record leaves nothing to be desired.
 

Generations in Pedigree
First Second Third Fourth
(Sire) CH RAMROD'S TRAMP (4XW) ROM CH CRENSHAW'S JEEP (4XW) ROM CH FINLEY'S BO ROM LOPOSAY'S DUBS
LOPOSAY'S DOT
CH CRENSHAW'S HONEYBUNCH (3XW) ROM WALLING'S BULLYSON (2XW)(1XL) ROM
CARVER'S AMBER
MARLOWE'S TABBY GIRL POR MARLOWE'S MR. BULLDOG CH BASS' TRAMP RED BOY (3XW) ROM
MARLOWE'S BRANDY GIRL
MARLOWE'S BRANDY GIRL CH BASS' TRAMP RED BOY (3XW) ROM
BASS' CLEO
(Dam) OTTER'S SASSY (POR) GR CH TANT'S YELLOW (6XW) ROM CH CHAVIS' YELLOW JOHN (4XW) ROM CH BASS' TRAMP RED BOY (3XW) ROM
MARLOWE'S RED FEATHER
TANT'S MISS JOCKO (2XW) ROM CH CHAVIS' JOCKO (4XW) POR
CHAVIS' LADY ROSE (1XL)
PAYNE'S NASTY (1XW) POR GR CH S.T.P.'S BUCK (7XW) ROM PATRICK'S LITTLE TATER
PATRICK'S RED LADY ROM
CH PAYNES SCOOTER RED (4XW) UPTOWN'S IDI AMIN (2XW)
CH PAYNE'S BLACK ANNIE (3XW)

 

This article on Rommel came from the the Jan 1998 AGDT.  You can purchase this issue for $25 including shipping worldwide by airmail. This issue also contains: Danny Burton Interview, Story on Alblizin's Luther , Cedar Brooks Nutty Buddy, Gambler's Champion Virgil, Mike's Champion Barkley, More on red Dogs with Iron Mike, and Times Square along with WhatsUp!  Its an outstanding issue.

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ONLY IN AMERICA'S CHAMPION TYRONE

THIS IS THE COVER OF THE 1992 MAY/JUNE ISSUE

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SMIG'S BOOGIE MAN

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Snakeman's Rush

 
 
4 GENERATION PEDIGREE
GR CH SNAKEMAN'S RUSH
 
BREEDER:    SNAKEMAN
SEX:    MALE
 

 

Generations in Pedigree
First Second Third Fourth
(Sire) GR CH SNAKEMAN'S PEDRO (9XW) ROM CH CRENSHAW'S RASCAL 8XW 1XL ROM P. CARVER'S BLACK SHINE CLAYTON'S ELI JR (2XW)
CLEMMONS' BRENDY
CARVER'S ORPHAN ANNIE II (2XW) CLAYTON'S ELI JR (2XW)
CARVER'S ORPHAN ANNY
CRENSHAW'S SANDY (1XW) WOOD'S OSO NEGRO (1XW) P. CARVER'S BLACK SHINE
CARVER'S ORPHAN ANNIE II (2XW)
CH CRENSHAW'S HONEYBUNCH (3XW) ROM WALLING'S BULLYSON (2XW)(1XL) ROM
CARVER'S AMBER
(Dam) SNAKEMAN'S DYNAMITE CH R. SORRELLS' PISTOL PETE (6XW) ROM CH LLOYD'S GATOR (RICK SORRELS) GR CH DAVIS' BOOMERANG (ROM)
J.CARVER'S MISS BOOMER
BENSON'S BEAUTY CARVER'S PISTOL (2XW) ROM
CARVER'S SUSIE
SORRELL'S JUDY WOOD'S SNOOTY (2XW)(2XL) ROM HOOTEN'S' SNAKE
ART'S MISSY (2XW) ROM
BREWER'S COPY (2XW) JOHNSON'S ZEB (2XW)
BREWER'S HONEY BABE


 

 

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